View Full Version : For. Or against, Rudy Giuliani for President
REDJIM
11-14-2006, 07:21 PM
Hillary can't really have a substantive Presidential campaign, can she?
After all, she did the "good" wife thing with Bill, after he involked the "it's not sex" defense...
So, is this New York carpetbagger a more powerful candidate for President of The United States, than Mayor of the World, Rudolph Giuliani?
Comments welcome.
Hillary can't really have a substantive Presidential campaign, can she?
After all, she did the "good" wife thing with Bill, after he involked the "it's not sex" defense...
So, is this New York carpetbagger a more powerful candidate for President of The United States, than Mayor of the World, Rudolph Giuliani?
Comments welcome.
Both of these turkeys, er candidates, would be pretty much at the bottom of my list, but then again, virtually everyone who sounds like they intend running are on the bottom of my list at this point. Can't this country find two decent candidates, candidates who we actually might vote for, instead of having to pick the lessor of the evils.
weblet
11-14-2006, 09:48 PM
Ack!!! He said it, he said it!!
hehehe.... "carpetbagger".... *snigger* *snort* HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Boy, somebody's got her number...
deangreenhoe
11-14-2006, 11:30 PM
The bottom line is that both of these people try too hard to be moderates within their parties. (It's almost painful to watch.) At this juncture the country is far too encamped on one side of the aisle or the other to make them viable in 2008. It's going to take far longer than a couple of years to breach the great divide.
Or I could just be full of bologna.
I still love Rudy, even though he seemed to be on a mission to self-destruct a few years back.
No way will I vote for Hillary! I think the fact that she allowed him to publicly humiliate her and ridicule their marriage - and still stayed and took it says much about her.
REDJIM
11-15-2006, 05:32 PM
Didn't some pundit once observe: politics makes strange bedfellows.
Eileen Sellers
11-18-2006, 09:51 AM
Can't this country find two decent candidates, candidates who we actually might vote for, instead of having to pick the lessor of the evils.
Sen. Joseph Biden would be my choice on the Democratic side,and
Sen. John McCain would be my choice on the Republican side.
I think Sen. Biden would be a fine president, and if he were to run
I think I would vote from him. He is the only Democrat that I would
vote for.
missalf
11-18-2006, 10:00 AM
Hillary or Rudy....hmmm, both are egotistical, empirical, not-nice people in real life to be around. What a choice.
Is there an unwritten requirement somewhere that to run for public office you have to be the type of person nobody likes, or that other people wouldn't want around if they couldn't get something from you? Or does public life just burn the niceness away after time?
Whatever, members of my family have had the opportunity (misfortune?) to be around both of these people when they're out of the spotlight, and neither are individuals you'd choose to invite into your home, or even associate with unless they're "on" with their public persona.
Can't we find a "real" person somewhere to run for President? Someone who wasn't born into privilege, who understands what it is to choose whether to pay the electric bill or buy food, or knows what it is to have to live paycheck to paycheck? When and if a candidate like that is found THEN they'll have my wholesale support...but I doubt if anyone like that could make it that high in the political machine.
It sounds like you want Bill Clinton to run again, to me.
Can't we find a "real" person somewhere to run for President?
Miss Alf,
How many "real" people do you know who are comfortable talking about how great they are? The kind of personality that's required to put yourself out there probably insures an "egotistical, empirical, not-nice people in real life"
missalf
11-18-2006, 06:48 PM
No, Ned, I do NOT want Bill back in office. I wasn't a fan of his policies (either political or moral), but from a "real person" standpoint he was probably the closest we've had in the oval office in a long time. Unfortunately though, somewhere along the line IMHO he turned to the dark side.
Tdew, you're probably right -- maybe being an egotistical b*st*rd is an unwritten requirement; there's probably a checkbox on the paperwork you fill out when you file to run for office along the lines of "Do you love yourself more than anyone else in the whole world" and if the answer isn't yes you get no money and your application is rejected.
greenearth
12-05-2006, 12:36 PM
No way will I vote for Hillary! I think the fact that she allowed him to publicly humiliate her and ridicule their marriage - and still stayed and took it says much about her
That is real sad reason not to vote for someone.....
I guess you have never met someone who stayed with their spouses after finding out that they had an affair.
Kairho
12-05-2006, 12:51 PM
That is real sad reason not to vote for someone.....
We should start a topic on the sometimes sad/ridiculous criteria people have for voting. My MIL votes for the candidate whose wife she likes best!
I guess you have never met someone who stayed with their spouses after finding out that they had an affair.
I don't really want to get into this - I don't in general - but if I've known people who have managed to forgive and get past infidelity in their marriage, I haven't been aware of it, because it hasn't been a public display, prolonged by someone continuing to lie about it.
bodega
12-05-2006, 02:32 PM
I think this next Presidental race could interesting....for a change!
Kairho
12-05-2006, 03:03 PM
I think this next Presidental race could interesting....for a change!
You mean the last 2 weren't!
Inconvenience
12-10-2006, 01:16 PM
It's too bad that the last thing that will win the Republican Nomination is a true Conservative.
It's too bad that the last thing that will win the Republican Nomination is a true Conservative.
Hi I. Welcome to Tripso. Can you define what you mean is a "true conservative." In advance, if you haven't been poking around the forums much, I should say that I am a social liberal, yet a fiscal conservative. I would be interested in knowing what a "true conservative" is. I'm not trying to bait you, by the way, I'm just interested in what people think a conservative actually is.
I look forward to your continued posts.
Inconvenience
12-11-2006, 05:48 AM
I simply mean the Republicans in power are almost all Neo-con "wolf in sheep's clothing" ,big spending, religious pandering,world policing, windbags.
I guess I really mean a fiscal conservative. Because I don't want another Nixon or Reagan. I don't want the constitution subordinate to The Bible.
People often consider me a social liberal because I don't believe in Federal Drug Laws, Federal abortion laws, or any other Federal Law covering something witch can be handled by individual States.
At the same time I don't believe in Affirmative Action or any other attempt at social homogeny. All this sort of thing should be in the States control.
I believe the Federal Government should be limited to national defense and defending the constitution when at all possible. I do realize we sometimes need things like National Parks and Hoover Dams and Interstate Highway systems.
I know it's a long forgotten dream, but I wish we were truly the United States in the original meaning.
People forget the definition of State, and why we are called the United States.
State: set of governing institutions with sovereignty over a definite territory. (Wikipedia)