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Ned
08-15-2006, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by AP via CNN.com - August 15 2006
Report: X-ray machines don't detect explosives in shoes

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The government's new order that all airline passengers put their shoes through X-ray machines won't help screeners find a liquid or gel that can be used as a bomb.

The machines are unable to detect explosives, according to a Homeland Security report on aviation screening recently obtained by The Associated Press.

The Transportation Security Administration ordered the shoe-scanning requirement as it fine-tunes new security procedures.

Those procedures were put in place after British police last week broke up a terrorist plot to assemble and detonate bombs aboard as many as 10 airliners crossing the Atlantic Ocean from Britain to the U.S.

Among the new procedures are a ban on liquids and gels in airline passenger cabins, more hand searches of carry-on luggage, and random double screening of passengers at boarding gates.

On Sunday, the TSA made it mandatory for shoes to be run through X-ray machines as passengers go through metal detectors. The scans were begun in late 2001, after the arrest of Richard Reid aboard a trans-Atlantic flight when he tried to ignite an explosive device hidden in his shoe. The shoe scans have been optional for several years.

In its April 2005 report, "Systems Engineering Study of Civil Aviation Security -- Phase I," the Homeland Security Department concluded that images on X-ray machines don't provide the information necessary to detect explosives.

Machines used at most airports to scan hand-held luggage, purses, briefcases and shoes have not been upgraded to detect explosives since the report was issued.

TSA spokeswoman Yolanda Clark said putting shoes on the X-ray machines makes the screening process more efficient and eliminates confusion. "We do not have a specific threat regarding shoes," Clark said. "In an abundance of caution we require all shoes to be removed and X-rayed to mitigate a variety of threats," such as potential weapons.

The Homeland Security report said that "even a 1/4-inch insole of sheet explosive" could create the kind of blast that reportedly brought down Pan Am flight 103, the airliner that blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland, in December 1988, killing 270 people in the air and on the ground.

The Homeland Security report recommends that explosives trace detection, or ETD, be used on the shoes and hands of passengers when the screeners determine they must be checked more thoroughly.

"To help close this gap, the percentage of shoes subjected to explosives inspection should be significantly increased," the report said.

"Within the current state of the art, they afford the only meaningful explosives detection capability at the checkpoint," the report said...

Go to X-ray machines don't detect explosives in shoes (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/15/Terror.plot.security.ap/index.html) to read the entire article.

travelwriter
08-21-2006, 05:41 PM
I heard on radio that the xrays of shoes are to show, not explosives, but if they have been tampered with.

Ned
08-21-2006, 05:47 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(travelwriter @ Aug 21 2006, 05:41 PM) 35043</div>
I heard on radio that the xrays of shoes are to show, not explosives, but if they have been tampered with.
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That appears to be true, or at least that's what they say. The problem with that is that apparently terrorists know how to attach a layer of plastic explosives to the bottom of the soul of a pair of sneakers, which looks like it belongs there. It even has a typical tread design, and it's epoxied on to the soul. X-rays will not detect that. All you need is a simple detonator to set it off.

REDJIM
08-22-2006, 06:21 PM
JEEZ!

Isn't the United States of America the most inventive country in the entire history of The World?

Knowing that the battle against Moslem Extremist Terriorism is the number one threat to peace and freedom around the world, don't you think that developing screening tools and policies would reflect a "live-or-die" urgency in the western world? Don't you think that the Feds should be playing a Gong Show with security providers, and encouraging skunk works as they did after Pearl Harbor?

To admit that third world murderers refining "shoe bombs" have a technological advantage over the most powerful nation in the history of the world is not only insulting, its criminal.

Ned
08-22-2006, 06:46 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(REDJIM @ Aug 22 2006, 06:21 PM) 35190</div>
JEEZ!

Isn't the United States of America the most inventive country in the entire history of The World?

Knowing that the battle against Moslem Extremist Terriorism is the number one threat to peace and freedom around the world, don't you think that developing screening tools and policies would reflect a "live-or-die" urgency in the western world? Don't you think that the Feds should be playing a Gong Show with security providers, and encouraging skunk works as they did after Pearl Harbor?

To admit that third world murderers refining "shoe bombs" have a technological advantage over the most powerful nation in the history of the world is not only insulting, its criminal.
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Actually, sniffer technology will work on the shoes and sneaks, but for some reason TSA insists on using x-ray technology. But that's our government at work. Their mentality under the current administration is that they're right and that's the end of it. The rest of the world is wrong, except when they agree with the administration. Sooner or later we're going to pay dearly again for this administration's arrogance.