View Full Version : Congrats to Spears!
mtp51
12-19-2007, 06:46 AM
Little Jamie Lynn Spears, 16, is expecting a baby with her boyfriend. She is 3 months pregnant and plans to raise her child in her home state of Louisiana so it will have a "normal" life.
Good luck with that, dear!
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1576746/20071218/spears_britney.jhtml
Loonbeam
12-19-2007, 09:30 AM
Amazingly, she's managed to make her sister look restrained for once. An accomplishment in itself.
What's said is that several articles were quoting members of her family as Jamie being the one they expected to 'support' them.
This whole family needs real parents. They're out of control.
Eileen Sellers
12-19-2007, 03:17 PM
She is such a pretty young girl... both girls are very pretty (when they want to be).
It was reported on the Today show that the mom was about
to release a book on parenting, now the publisher has it on hold.
Wise publisher.
This is such a sad story, it saddens me that our society has come to this.
I pity the child.
jjjenny
12-19-2007, 03:33 PM
I find it hard to beleve that anyone would publish a book on parenting by her. I'm sure they figured no matter what it said,that it would sell.
Once on my way to work I was listening to the radio and a lady was talking about Brittney and her family. She had lived in the same town and said the father was a drunk and would get drunk away from home. She said the mother would speed through the school zones dropping off, I guess, Jamie. She said the police never stopped her, but stopped everyone else.
I don't know if any of that is true. All I know is that Brittney is really messed up and now her 16 year old sister is pregnant. What a mess!
And regardless of one's personal beliefs there is really no reason for any 16 year old to be pregnant, or a girl of any age for that fact. Today there is certainly ways to prevent it, hundreds of them. She was surprised? C'mon!
I don't believe the Spears' family is a member of general American society.
Many music industry and movie industry families are not part of American society, but are a society unto themselves, and not one I would personally like to be a part of. The Spears family, in my opinion belongs to that "elite" society, who's values are not close to my own. It seems clear that spending cash, and the almost single minded pursuit of and devotion to personal pleasure, regards of ethics and morals, and personal and family well being, tops that family's list.
Like you Lynn, I do pity this families latest children. They don't deserve what they get.
This is such a sad story, it saddens me that our society has come to this.
I pity the child.
RGoltsch
12-19-2007, 08:02 PM
This is such a sad story, it saddens me that our society has come to this.
I pity the child.
As a father, I am really disheartened to hear this. My twelve year old daughter is a fan of this young lady's show on cable. Something tells me another conversation is coming........
Eileen Sellers
12-19-2007, 08:18 PM
As a father, I am really disheartened to hear this. My twelve year old daughter is a fan of this young lady's show on cable. Something tells me another conversation is coming........
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Yes, that too.
This might be a question for the Nancy Grace show, but should the 18yr old boy be accountable for having sex with a minor. Or does the law only pertain if she complains.
She's 16 and therefore consensual sex is not against the law. He does have financial responsibility equal to hers, however.
Yes, that too.
This might be a question for the Nancy Grace show, but should the 18yr old boy be accountable for having sex with a minor. Or does the law only pertain if she complains.
Loonbeam
12-19-2007, 08:38 PM
Thats what really concerns me about this mess. No one had any illusions about her sister before she went off the deep end, but the younger one was supposedly the saner, cleaner one.
Best possible outcome is it sparks MANY of the conversations of which you speak and some young girls are spared this experience.
As a father, I am really disheartened to hear this. My twelve year old daughter is a fan of this young lady's show on cable. Something tells me another conversation is coming........
Kairho
12-19-2007, 08:49 PM
She's 16 and therefore consensual sex is not against the law. He does have financial responsibility equal to hers, however.That depends on the state which has jurisdiction over the matter. The age of consent in California is 18 for example.
In Louisiana, where Spears lives, it is a misdemeanor for someone age 17 to 19 to have consensual sex with someone age 15 to 17 if the difference between their ages is more than two years.
In California, where she sometimes tapes her television show, it's a misdemeanor to have sex with someone younger than 18 if the offender is less than three years older. Someone more than three years older could be charged with a felony.Reference: Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy raises legal questions (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/19/spears.statutory.rape/)
jfrenaye
12-19-2007, 08:58 PM
But I also think that unless there was a crime, there needs to be a complaint first.
They're two years apart.
That depends on the state which has jurisdiction over the matter. The age of consent in California is 18 for example.
Reference: Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy raises legal questions (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/19/spears.statutory.rape/)
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1576746/20071218/spears_britney.jhtml
I think the most disturbing part of all this might be the comments posted under the link to the story above.
Yes, that too.
This might be a question for the Nancy Grace show, but should the 18yr old boy be accountable for having sex with a minor. Or does the law only pertain if she complains.
Oh she just needs to stay out of it.
bodega
12-19-2007, 10:54 PM
What a sad, messed up family. Was the mother really writing a book on parenting? What a joke!If she got pregnant in CA, the young man could be arrested and if found guilty of sex with a minor, he would be labeled a sex offender and that would be with him for the rest of his life. In CA a 16 year old girl is still a minor and this could be considered rape. These girls act like cats in heat, but the law doesn't take that into consideration.
Eileen Sellers
12-20-2007, 10:16 AM
From the article:
Lynne Spears told OK! that her daughter had been dating Casey Aldridge for years.
She's only 16--how many years?
I'd like to see the press turn up the heat on Casey. Stick a mic in his face every chance asking him..What do you think about becoming a father? Are your parents gald to be grandparents...will you be moving to LA...are you planning on getting married? Too much attention is paid to the girls, and not enough on the boys.
Michgal
12-20-2007, 10:39 AM
The whole thing is just sad for both of them. I have a 15 year old and even though it's been acceptable for many of her friends to date- (some of them were dating ie going to the mall or movies with their boyfriend) since they were 12!)- we highly discourage it. There is a girl in her 10th grade class who is pregnant so we've been talking about this subject alot this year.
Actually though it's been a topic we've discussed since she was in grade school - I won't outright forbid it, especially with this child as she's one to do anything full throttle that I forbid:rolleyes: . We've just talked about dating in general, the natural progression of things when dating, what her goals & desires out of life are, the consequences of having a child, our hopes & expectations for her ect ect. These conversations have been over the years and fit for her age. So far so good- not saying that some boy won't come along.....but hopefully she'll think a little longer and harder.
Only two more daughters to go! oy vey!
Jennifer
mercwyn
12-20-2007, 11:01 AM
My daughter is 14 and she is not permitted to date and will not be permitted to date until she turns 16. Luckily for me, most of her friends parents have taken the same approach so I'm not the odd one out for a change. She has gotten the whole lecture on the birds and the bees and the consequences of making a poor decision.
Hopefully we don't pull a "Spears".
I'd bet there is a whole lot more parenting going on in your home than has been the case in the Spears home, but of course, at sometime you just have to trust your kids, and let go. I can say that letting go, and trusting they have learned their lessons well, is a very hard thing to do indeed.
My daughter is 14 and she is not permitted to date and will not be permitted to date until she turns 16. Luckily for me, most of her friends parents have taken the same approach so I'm not the odd one out for a change. She has gotten the whole lecture on the birds and the bees and the consequences of making a poor decision.
Hopefully we don't pull a "Spears".
Loonbeam
12-20-2007, 12:06 PM
Having nothing but conference calls today, been out scanning the nets.. Various sources are reporting that the two did indeed take 'precautions', whether this was a lack of use or a product failure of course will probably not be known...
So at least there was SOME brainpower being applied.
Annette
12-20-2007, 12:11 PM
Making sure the door is locked and the curtains shut is not a precaution.
Loonbeam
12-20-2007, 01:35 PM
Lol.... Not quite what I meant :)
Making sure the door is locked and the curtains shut is not a precaution.
DCTravelAgent
12-20-2007, 03:54 PM
I find this all really sad, really, really sad.
You know, I don't believe that the only way to parent is in a two person, heterosexual marriage - but really whatever happened to good old shunning? I feel as though the Churches in their zeal to avoid abortions have become too welcoming to these pregnant teenagers - they even through them Baby Showers!!! Whatever happened to making them feel uncomfortable so their peers would take note and avoid the same circumstances?! Now it's one big party or acceptance and approval! Okay, maybe (I don't know actually) there were just as many teenage pregnancies in the 50s, 60s, and 70s but I just don't think so....
I think the difference was that as soon as they knew - a marriage was quickly arranged - and then they had a premature baby.
DCTravelAgent
12-20-2007, 04:41 PM
That could be. And I do think more babies were adopted out as well....
jjjenny
12-20-2007, 05:26 PM
I don't know that I would have been a good mother at that age. I was too busy out running around and having fun (not behind closed doors). I hadn't ever babysat either. It would have been awful to have to take care of a baby.
But I'm sure she has the money to hire nannies so she can probably continue life as she does now.
weblet
12-21-2007, 03:40 PM
But I'm sure she has the money to hire nannies so she can probably continue life as she does now.
This is something that concerns me. She has access to money and thus help. She'll never feel it the way your daughter or mine would. It will never have the same consequences. And yet, her behavior is influential. The best thing that could happen is that Nick cuts her loose, but what are the chances?
Loonbeam
12-21-2007, 06:45 PM
Nick hasn't cut her loose yet (to be fair to them, the next season of the show has been already shot and paid for, so they stand to see a substantial loss).
What they have been talking about doing is producing a show on Teen Pregnancy, and have consulted Linda Ellerbee to do it.
If they do this, and do it well, AND air it before and after a few eps of Spears show, I think I would be ok with it going on the air, as it would probably do more good than harm at that point.
Nick is "between a rock and a hard place" at this point, and you're exactly right about the show.
Nick hasn't cut her loose yet (to be fair to them, the next season of the show has been already shot and paid for, so they stand to see a substantial loss).
What they have been talking about doing is producing a show on Teen Pregnancy, and have consulted Linda Ellerbee to do it.
If they do this, and do it well, AND air it before and after a few eps of Spears show, I think I would be ok with it going on the air, as it would probably do more good than harm at that point.
Loonbeam
12-21-2007, 10:56 PM
Also in my book, generally speaking no matter what Nick ends up doing, they have a LOT of karmic credit in my book for some of the things they have already tackled.
jfrenaye
12-27-2007, 05:31 PM
The latest scuttlebutt is that this "boyfriend" is being paid to be the fall guy and the dad is a "much" older man involved in her Zoey 101 television show. Old enough to likely go to jail for a LONG time if he had sex with a 16 year old.
OK Magazine, a real rag, has paid Jamie and her mother $1M for Jamie's pregnancy story, plus there are options in place if she'll let them have photos of the delivery.
tiffani
12-28-2007, 09:48 AM
so many gossips around this pregnancy... what do you think about the wholepregnancy story being a fiction?)
Tiffani, if she is not, or was never pregnant, she and her mother will be convicted of fraud. And you know darn well that some prosecutor will jump on a non-pregnancy, and press fraud charges.
Jamie and her mother have signed a $1M contract with OK Magazine for Jamie's pregnancy story. They are to receive the cash next week. If she isn't pregnant, signing that contract constituted fraud.
There would be a big civil suit too, as you know OK will go after them.
Bottom line, the Spears may be jerks, and creeps, horrendous parents, without much talent, etc., but when it comes to money, I really don't think they are that stupid. She's pregnant, and unfortunately, apparently proud of it.
so many gossips around this pregnancy... what do you think about the wholepregnancy story being a fiction?)
maryb
12-28-2007, 11:34 AM
Pregnancy is a wondrous, beautiful situation to be in - UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES. Unmarried it is NOT the right situation. When I was a teen getting pregnant was a huge no-no. If a girl did, she either "moved away"; got married before anyone knew or simply disappeared from regular school. Now it seems to be flaunted and is socially acceptable. I have a 17 yr old who I can only hope and pray doesn't fall to the "peer" pressure destroying all her hopes and ambitions. All we can do as parents/grandparents is try our best to instill RIGHT in our children. But it gets harder every year with the lack of parenting I see around and "idols" flaunting their mis-deeds, not speaking of the content of movies and t.v. making light of sleeping around.
Off the bandbox. I have faith that my family will be more than okay.
jfrenaye
12-28-2007, 11:38 AM
Well the unfortunate part is that the ones in the limelight (or in the shadows of the limelight) are rewarded for the behavior.
Who would have thought that the Girls Next Door (Hefner's girlfriends) would be better role models than the talent on the wholesome Nikelodian